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Education Gadfly Show #797: Why debunked reading practices continue to spread

Michael J. Petrilli Sandi Jacobs David Griffith Amber M. Northern, Ph.D.
11.30.2021
 

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Sandi Jacobs, Principal at EdCounsel and former Senior Education Program Specialist for Reading First at the U.S. Department of Education, joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss why reading programs based on debunked science persist in schools. Her answer: It’s complicated. Educators, in part, may struggle with the idea that they’ve been teaching something incorrectly. And strong, evidence-backed replacements can lack hefty marketing budgets. After this discussion, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines a study on how dual-language education affects math and reading outcomes.

In addition to listening on our website, you can find this and every episode on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and all other major platforms. You can also share it with friends.

Recommended content:

  • EdCounsel’s Twitter  content: @EdCounselDC.
  • Recent media reports on poor-quality reading curricula:
    • EdWeek’s “New Curriculum Review Gives Failing Marks to Two Popular Reading Programs,”
    • Chalkbeat’s “Colorado cracks down on schools using weak reading curriculum. Advocates worry about backpedaling,”
    • APM Reports’s “Influential authors Fountas and Pinnell stand behind disproven reading theory.”
  • The seminal 1999 report Sandi mentioned from the American Federation of Teachers: Teaching Reading Is Rocket Science: What Expert Teachers of Reading Should Know and Be Able To Do. It was updated and reissued in 2020.
  • Fordham’s 2007 report on ineffective literacy programs: Whole-Language High Jinks.
  • The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Andrew Bibler, “Dual Language Education and Student Achievement,” Journal of Education Finance and Policy (October 2021).

Feedback welcome!

Have ideas or feedback on our podcast? Send them to our podcast producer Pedro Enamorado at [email protected].

Policy Priority:
High Expectations
Topics:
Curriculum & Instruction

President, Thomas B. Fordham Institute

Michael J. Petrilli is president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution, executive editor of Education Next, a Distinguished Senior Fellow for…

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Sandi is Vice President for Policy at the National Council on Teacher Quality. Most recently she worked at the U.S. Department of Education as a Senior Education Program Specialist for the Reading First and Comprehensive School Reform Demonstration programs. Prior to that, she taught 4th and 5th grade for nearly a decade at Public School 9 in Brooklyn. Ms. Jacobs was a Presidential Management Intern and a charter corps…

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David Griffith is Associate Director of Research at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, where he manages or authors reports on various subjects including charter schools, …

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Amber Northern is senior vice president for research at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, where she supervises the Institute’s robust research portfolio and…

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