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Closures, mergers, and charter growth | Episode 1021 of The Education Gadfly Show

Patrick McAlister Shaina Cavazos Michael J. Petrilli David Griffith, Ph.D. Amber M. Northern, Ph.D.
6.10.2026
 

Patrick McAlister, principal of PM Strategies and former director of the Indianapolis Mayor’s Office of Education Innovation, and Shaina Cavazos, the office’s current director, join The Education Gadfly Show to discuss charter growth after the replication era. Drawing on their experience with closures and mergers in Indianapolis, they explain why authorizers and charter boards may need new approaches as enrollment declines and the sector matures.

Then, on the Research Minute, Amber Northern examines new research on content rich reading instruction and finds that while teachers are using strong foundational skills curricula, students often get too few chances to build fluency and vocabulary.

Recommended content: 

  • Beyond Replication: What Responsible Charter Growth Looks Like Now —Jed Wallace, CharterFolk
  • The 10-year test for durable schools —Robert Pondiscio, Thomas B. Fordham Institute
  • Do Authorizer Evaluations Predict the Success of New Charter Schools? — Adam Kho, Ph.D., Shelby Leigh Smith, and Douglas Lee Lauen, Ph.D., Thomas B. Fordham Institute
  • Bridging the Divide: Connecting Word Recognition and Language Comprehension in Early Literacy —Anna Jennerjohn, Sara Rutherford-Quach, Lauren J. Cassidy, Katrina Woodworth, Sarah Dec, and Dan Reynolds, SRI (2026)


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Policy Priority:
School Choice
Topics:
Charter Schools
Patrick McAlister

Patrick McAlister is the founder and principal of PM Strategies. He advises nonprofits, charter schools, and government agencies on strategic growth and policy, and helps charter boards, networks, and authorizers think through closures, mergers, and independence transitions. Before launching PM Strategies in 2024, Patrick spent more than six years as…

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Shaina Cavazos headshot

Shaina Cavazos is the Director of the Office of Education Innovation, a charter school authorizer in the Indianapolis Mayor’s Office. Shaina has led work in each of OEI’s focus areas, including academics, finance, and governance, as well as leading cycles for evaluating charter applications and renewals. Before coming to OEI, Shaina spent five years as a staff reporter for the nonprofit education news website Chalkbeat…

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President, Thomas B. Fordham Institute

Michael J. Petrilli is president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, executive editor of Education Next, editor in chief of the Education Gadfly Weekly, host of the…

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David Griffith is the National Research Director at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, where he manages or authors reports on various subjects including charter schools, …

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Amber Northern is senior vice president for research at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, where she supervises the Institute’s robust research portfolio and…

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