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#977: New law, new questions for school choice, with Brian Jodice

Brian Jodice Michael J. Petrilli Adam Tyner, Ph.D.
7.16.2025
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On this week’s Education Gadfly Show, Brian Jodice, National Press Secretary for the American Federation for Children joins us for a lively debate on the federal school choice provision embedded in the newly enacted “One Big Beautiful Bill”—including its potential impact in blue states.

Then, on the Research Minute, Adam reviews a new Education Next study showing that a low-cost college-planning course can boost success for high-achieving, low-income students.

Recommended content: 

  • “Democrats’ School Choice Dilemma” —Michael J. Petrilli, for The Wall Street Journal
  • “Federal school choice skeptics are tilting at windmills” —Shaka Mitchell, for the Thomas B. Fordham Institute
  • “College Counseling in the Classroom” —Joshua Hyman, Education Next
  • “#974: The Risks of the Educational Choice for Children Act, with Jon Valant” —Education Gadfly Show, Thomas B. Fordham Institute
  • Education Gadfly Show #974: The Risks of the Educational Choice for Children Act, with Jon Valant
  • Education Gadfly Show #963: All about the Educational Choice for Children Act, with Jim Blew 

Feedback Welcome: Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to Stephanie Distler at [email protected].  

Brian Jodice

Brian Jodice serves as National Press Secretary for the American Federation for Children (AFC), bringing nearly 15 years of experience working closely with AFC to advance school choice as both a consultant and in-state partner. In this role, Brian oversees and directs the national press voice of AFC and its spokespeople, collaborating across teams to develop and execute communications strategies and campaigns that expand…

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President, Thomas B. Fordham Institute

Michael J. Petrilli is president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, executive editor of Education Next, editor in chief of the Education Gadfly Weekly, host of the…

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Adam Tyner was a member of the Fordham Institute's national research team from 2017 to 2025. In 2025 he became executive director of the Oklahoma Center for Education Policy at the University of Oklahoma.

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