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#870: The Great School Rethink, with Rick Hess

Frederick M. Hess Michael J. Petrilli Amber M. Northern, Ph.D. David Griffith, Ph.D.
5.17.2023
 

On this week’s Education Gadfly Show podcast, Rick Hess of the American Enterprise Institute joins Mike Petrilli and David Griffith to discuss his new book, The Great School Rethink. Then, on the Research Minute, Amber discusses a Massachusetts study that found a connection between teachers’ scores on CTE licensure exams and the long-term earnings of their students.

Recommended content:

  • “How can we liberate students from drudgery? It’s time for a Great Rethink” —Rick Hess
  •  “Education commentary is dominated by optimism bias” —Freddie deBoer
  • The study that Amber reviewed on the Research Minute: Bingjie Chen et al., “CTE teacher licensure and long-term student outcomes,” Education Finance & Policy (March 2023)

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Have ideas for improving our podcast? Send them to our producer Nathaniel Grossman at [email protected].

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Frederick M. Hess is director of education policy studies at the American Enterprise Institute and author of The Great School Rethink (Harvard Education Press 2023).

President, Thomas B. Fordham Institute

Michael J. Petrilli is president of the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, executive editor of Education Next, editor in chief of the Education Gadfly Weekly, host of the…

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Amber Northern is senior vice president for research at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, where she supervises the Institute’s robust research portfolio and…

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David Griffith is the National Research Director at the Thomas B. Fordham Institute, where he manages or authors reports on various subjects including charter schools, …

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