This week, Mike's mad that leaders of chronically failing schools are doing yard work while their buildings burn, Rick can't understand why David Brooks wants fat kids to gorge on marshmallows, and neither is sure whether Jackie Robinson swung both ways. We've got an interview with ABCTE President Dave Saba, and News of the Weird is TRU. Liam's mom says, "It's the best Education Gadfly Show yet!" Click here to listen on your computer (no iPod required-this link will play through any music software on your computer, including Windows Media Player or RealPlayer). To subscribe to this podcast, or to get more information about how podcasts work, click here.