This week, Mike and Rick chat about David Brooks, pizza, and terrorists. We've got an interview with field trip expert Kathy Carroll, and Education News of the Weird is weirdly liberating. Click here to listen through our website and view past editions. To download the show as an mp3 to your computer, click here (no iPod required--this link will play through any music software on your computer, including Windows Media Player or RealPlayer). To subscribe to this podcast, or to get more information about how podcasts work, click here.